來源：mjjcn.com 翻譯：Sara Lee
“ 當時我，Ryan White 還有他的媽媽都坐在Neverland 的飯廳裏，在餐桌上，Ryan 對他媽媽說：‘ 媽媽，到時你葬我的時候，可不要給我穿西裝打領帶啊，’ 他繼續說道：‘我不要我穿西裝打領帶，我要穿牛仔褲和T恤衫。’ 我說：‘對不起，我得去一下洗手間。’ 然後我就沖進衛生間，開始一個人在那裏哭起來。想像一下，一個十二歲的孩子在跟媽媽講該如何埋葬他，這就是我聽到Ryan 說的話，你的心怎麼能夠不被像他那樣的人所俘獲？！ ”
Michael Jackson
Shmuley Boteach: 你曾親近過一個通過輸血得愛滋病的小男孩嗎？
I had little Ryan White in my dining room telling his mother at the table, ‘Mother, when you bury me, I don’t want to be in a suit and tie.’ He said, ‘Don’t put me in a suit and tie. I want to be in jeans and a t-shirt.’ I said, ‘Excuse me, I have to go to the bathroom.’ And I ran to the bathroom and I cried. Imagine a 12-year-old boy telling his mother how to bury him. That’s what I heard him say. How could your heart not go out to someone like that?
-Michael Jackson
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Wasn’t there was a young boy you were very close to who got AIDS from a blood transfusion?
Michael Jackson: Ryan White，我最難受的是……我想知道而又不能體會死去的孩子的感受。我真的體會不了。我想那大概是當小孩即將死去，甚至患病的時候，應該有個死亡前的感應，但不是死期的感應。我曾聽Ryan White說，12歲的小孩，在我的Neverland飯廳桌子前跟他媽媽討論如何安葬他。他說：“媽媽，我下葬時候，我不想穿西裝打領帶。我要穿OshKosh 牛仔褲和T-shirt”。我跟著就說：“我要上一趟洗手間”。 然後我飛奔到洗手間痛哭。 聽著這個小男孩跟他媽媽商量如何安葬他，這真夠我受的。我單獨的跟他呆在這個房子裡， 他就躺在那兒， 當時我很難過，真想讓他活下來，然後我吻他和說我愛他，這些都是在他活著時候我曾做過的。他曾住在這裡，我照顧著他。但想起他躺在那裡……我曾跟他說：“Ryan， 我向你保證， 我的下張專輯我會專門為你做點什麼。 我會為你作一首歌，而且我會親自演唱。我想要全世界都認識你。” 然後我寫了 Gone Too Soon 。 那是為他而寫的歌。
Ryan White. The hardest for me is…I am going to answer but I don’t understand when a child dies. I really don’t. I think there should be a window where there is a chance of dying but not in this window of time. When a child dies, or if the child is sick, I really don’t understand it. But I listen to Ryan White, twelve years old, at my dining room table at Neverland telling his mother how to bury him. He said, “Mom when I die, don’t put me in a suit and tie. I don’t want to be in a suit and tie. Put me in OshKosh jeans and a T-shirt.” I said, “I have to use the bathroom,” and I ran to the bathroom and I cried my eyes out. Hearing this little boy telling his mother how to bury him. That hurt me. It was as if he was prepared for it and when he died he was in OshKosh jeans and a T-shirt and a watch that I gave him. And I am sitting alone in this room with him and he is lying there and I felt so bad I just wanted to hold him and kiss him and say that I love him, which I did all those things when he was alive. I took care of him and he stayed at my house. But to see him just lying there…I spoke to him and I said, “Ryan, I promised you that I would do something in your honor on my next album. I will create a song for you. I will sing it. I want the world to know who you are.” I did Gone Too Soon. That was for him.
SB: 你覺得他聽得到你跟他說的話嗎？你覺得你能接觸到那些你愛著的或者離去的人的靈魂嗎？ 你仍覺得跟他們靠得很近嗎？
Don you think he heard you when you said that? Do you feel in touch with the soul of some of the people you love and have lost? Do you still feel close to them?
MJ: 是的，是的，是的。
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SB: 所以你不得不面對他的死亡，和其他你曾親近的人？
So you had to deal with his death and other people who you were close to?
MJ: 那非常非常傷我的心。 另一個男孩來找我， 他像雪一樣的白， 簡直是白得像雪或者一張白紙。他得了癌症，並快要死了。 他很喜歡我，他來到我的臥室， 看見我穿過的那些夾克和我的錄影， 他穿上那些夾克， 他開心得像在天堂一樣。 他們告訴我他不想活下去了。 或許他有離開的那天，我跟他說，“你瞧， 我正在要到你家去呢”。 我想他家應該在坎薩斯城。 “我打算一些日子後開巡演開到你家去。 我想你到時候能來看我的演出，我要把這個夾克送給你。” 他說：“你要把它送給我？” 我說：“是呀。 而且我想你在看演出時穿著它。” 我想讓他挺住， 我說：“當你來看演出的時候， 我想看到你穿上這件夾克和這個手套”， 我給了他一隻水晶手套，以前我從來沒給過別人。 他像在天堂一樣開心。 當我真的去到他家的時候， 他走了， 人們將手套和夾克一同與他下葬。 他才10歲。天知道， 我相信他是盡力挺住的了。
That hurt me so much. One other boy came to me and he was as white as snow, literally as white as snow or a white piece of paper. He was dying of cancer and he just loved me and he came in my bedroom and he saw the jackets I wore and the videos and he put them on and he was in heaven. They told me that he wasn’t going to live. That any day he could just go and I said, “Look, I am going to be coming to your town..” I think he was in Kansas City . “I am going to open my tour in Kansas City in there months. I want you to come to the show. I am going to give you this jacket.” He said “You are gonna’ give to it to me?” I said, “Yeah. But I want you to wear it to the show.” I was trying to make him hold on. I said, “When you come to the show I want to see you in this jacket and in this glove,” and I gave him one of my rhinestone gloves, and I never give the rhinestone gloves away. He was in heaven. When I came to the town he was dead and they buried him in the glove and the jacket. He was 10 years old. God knows, I know that he tried his best to hold on.
SB: 發生了這些事情，你會對上帝生氣嗎？
Do you feel angry at God for things like that happening?
MJ: 不會。 我只是沒體會到他們的感受。 我希望我們能更多的瞭解另一個世界。我知道是有輪迴和天堂的。 但是為什麼無論如何在穿越白光之前都要受病痛折磨，為什麼都要承受痛苦呢？ 無論如何那應該是最美好的體會吧。
No. I just don’t understand them. I wish we knew more about the other side. I know it promises everlasting life and being in heaven. But why suffering and why pain before crossing over to the white light, whatever it is? It should just be the most beautiful experience, whatever it is.
MJ: （男孩子的故事）是一個真實的故事。 我希望你能看見他的臉， Shmuley， 我真希望你能見證這故事。
(The story about the boy) was a true story. I wish you could’ve seen his face, Shmuley, I wish you could’ve seen it.
SB: 你是說那個承諾的故事，對嗎？ 你跟他說“如果你活下來，我答應……”對嗎？
And that was a promise story, right? You said to him “I promise if you stay alive…” Right?
MJ: 是的， 我真想讓他挺住。 他們說他快死了， 我說“我知道我能為他做點什麼。” 你明白不？ 我想讓他向前看， 挺住，我說“穿著這件來看演唱會”，他很開心。 但是當我趕到那兒的時候，他死了。 我痛心，我痛心。
Yeah, I was trying to get him to hold on. They said he was gonna die and I said, “I know I can do something about this.” You know? And I was trying to get him look forward, to hold on and I said “Wear this to the show” and he was so happy. When I got to the town, he was dead. Killed me, killed me.
SB: 你有什麼感覺的，就跟我說點兒你的感受吧。 你有什麼感受，當在你身邊的時候（一個我跟Michael Jackson都認識的癌症女孩）
How do you feel, describe the felling to me for just a minute. How do you feel when you’re around (a little girl with cancer whom Michael and I knew)
MJ: 我愛她。I love her.
SB: 你應該知道你跟他們有點不一樣， 當在你身邊的時候， 你幾乎能趕走他們的部分病痛。你知道古時候的拉比（猶太人的學者）吧，他們說你每訪問一些病人，你能帶走他們1/60的疾病。但是你呢， 幾乎拿走了50%的疾病， 你知道嗎？ 我相信你知道的。
You know that you could make a difference with them and you know that just being around you, part of their illness almost goes away. You know the ancient Rabbis said that every time you visit someone sick you take away 1/60th of their illness. But with you, it’s almost like you take away fifty percent of their illness, you know? I know you know that.
MJ: 是的，是的，我愛讓人們……我不想看到人們遭受傷害，特別是孩子。
Yeah, yeah. I love making people…I don’t like to see anybody hurt of suffer, especially children.
SB: 你知道你有給人療傷的能量嗎？ 或者是名人效應？換句話來說， 作為一個偉大的名人， 你向小孩表達關懷， 他們真的感覺很好。他們知道你是多麼的有名， 他們可能說“哇， 這麼有名的人居然關心我， 我一定很特別了。” 但這個已經超越名氣？ 是有些能量在你身上嗎？
Do you feel that you have healing power that was given to you? Or is it because of the celebrity? In other word, being a great celebrity, when you show a child attention, they feel really good. They know how famous you are, they feel like “Wow, someone that famous cares about me, I must be special.” But is it beyond celebrity? Is it something in you that way.
SB: You had this before, when you were Michael Jackson the boy?
MJ: 是的。
Yes.
RYAN WHITE'S FUNERAL (1990) - MICHAEL JACKSON
Ryan White 和媽媽Jeanne White
Q. You never had any hesitation about Ryan spending time with Michael Jackson? A. No!
… Michael was always interested in what Ryan was doing. He loved kids, and he didn’t care what race you were, what color you were, what was your handicap, what was your disease – Michael just loved all children.
Q. He did something incredibly special when he learned what Ryan’s favorite car was? A. We had a call from a car dealer who said they had a car for Ryan. [Michael did it] just to see the joy in the kid’s face.
[During the funeral] the car was sitting outside in the yard.. Michael started the car and “Man in the Mirror” was playing. The little things made Michael so happy. You could see in his eyes and he was smiling from ear to ear and said, “I was the last person that Ryan was listening to…?” and I said, “Yes”. Ryan just listened to it over and over again.
Three days after the funeral Michael called me and asked me how I was doing. I said, “What made you and Ryan so close?” Michael said, “…Nobody ever acts normal round me. Ryan knew how I wanted to be treated because that’s how he wanted to be treated. I can’t trust anyone because everyone wants something from me”. Then he said, “I promised Ryan he could be in my next video, but now that he is gone I can’t put him in my video. But could I do a video for him? I was like, “That’s unbelievable”. And he did a video called Gone too soon… that’s the memory that’ll stay forever”.
Brian Mercurio,
MJ 和 Ryan White 的媽媽Jeanne White
Ryan White 和媽媽Jeanne White
RYAN’S MOTHER SPEAKS OF THEIR FRIENDSHIP
eanne talking about Michael Jackson and her son...”Michael was amazed that Ryan never talked about his illness. And he said he never wanted anybody to feel sorry for him. So I think they really had this good communication of respect for each other”.Q. You never had any hesitation about Ryan spending time with Michael Jackson? A. No!
… Michael was always interested in what Ryan was doing. He loved kids, and he didn’t care what race you were, what color you were, what was your handicap, what was your disease – Michael just loved all children.
Q. He did something incredibly special when he learned what Ryan’s favorite car was? A. We had a call from a car dealer who said they had a car for Ryan. [Michael did it] just to see the joy in the kid’s face.
[During the funeral] the car was sitting outside in the yard.. Michael started the car and “Man in the Mirror” was playing. The little things made Michael so happy. You could see in his eyes and he was smiling from ear to ear and said, “I was the last person that Ryan was listening to…?” and I said, “Yes”. Ryan just listened to it over and over again.
Three days after the funeral Michael called me and asked me how I was doing. I said, “What made you and Ryan so close?” Michael said, “…Nobody ever acts normal round me. Ryan knew how I wanted to be treated because that’s how he wanted to be treated. I can’t trust anyone because everyone wants something from me”. Then he said, “I promised Ryan he could be in my next video, but now that he is gone I can’t put him in my video. But could I do a video for him? I was like, “That’s unbelievable”. And he did a video called Gone too soon… that’s the memory that’ll stay forever”.
A Special Story About Michael Jackson & Ryan White from Ryans Mother Jeanne
Here below you will find a special story sent into us by Ryan White's mother Jeanne White Ginder,and in it she talks about the bond betwwen Michael and Ryan,and the special friendship they shared. We had contacted Ryan's mother and asked her to share something special with all of Michael's fans from all over the world,and requested her to write up a short story about Michael's friendship with Ryan,and what happened after he passed away back in the 8th of April,1990.
This story has not been shared before in the media or public and is the first time it is released exclusively on the Michael Jackson Memorial Page. Please be the first ones to read what she had to say below about Michael and Ryan's friendship on this 20th anniversary (April 8,2010) on the day Ryan passed away. God bless you all
Brian Mercurio,
Chief Administrator of M.J.M.P.
Brian,
I got your e-mails,and here is something special to share with all of Michael's fans.
Michael was a very dear friend who I can't believe is gone. It's still so confusing to me how this could happen to such a great person. We knew Michael not just as a entertainer, but as a friend that would call up on Mothers day and tell me Happy Mothers Day because he was thinking of me. He talked about his sister Janet alot. He loved hearing stories about Ryan and Andrea because he loved how close Andrea and Ryan was just like him and Janet. He talked a lot about his Mom and how I reminded him of his own mom. (I was really thrilled)
One thing I would love people to know about Michael. He was a superstar, entertainer, recording artist, but the silliest things made him happy, having simple fun, laughs, cartoons, playing jokes and making people happy.
I remember when Michael came to our house for Ryan's funeral and Michael spent a couple hours in Ryan's room, he just wanted to be close to Ryan. He just sit on his bed for hours. Michael later asked Andrea to see Ryan's red Mustang. Andrea took Michael outside in the front yard where we had Ryan's car surrounded with flowers from people all around the world. Michael got in and turned the car on and "Man In The Mirror" was playing. Michael knew that was the last song Ryan had been listening to. It just thrilled him to know that. It was the simple things that put a smile on his face. He later released "GONE TOO SOON" for Ryan but who would have known he would be joining Ryan and he too would be "GONE TOO SOON"
We Love You Michael
Brian,
I got your e-mails,and here is something special to share with all of Michael's fans.
Michael was a very dear friend who I can't believe is gone. It's still so confusing to me how this could happen to such a great person. We knew Michael not just as a entertainer, but as a friend that would call up on Mothers day and tell me Happy Mothers Day because he was thinking of me. He talked about his sister Janet alot. He loved hearing stories about Ryan and Andrea because he loved how close Andrea and Ryan was just like him and Janet. He talked a lot about his Mom and how I reminded him of his own mom. (I was really thrilled)
One thing I would love people to know about Michael. He was a superstar, entertainer, recording artist, but the silliest things made him happy, having simple fun, laughs, cartoons, playing jokes and making people happy.
I remember when Michael came to our house for Ryan's funeral and Michael spent a couple hours in Ryan's room, he just wanted to be close to Ryan. He just sit on his bed for hours. Michael later asked Andrea to see Ryan's red Mustang. Andrea took Michael outside in the front yard where we had Ryan's car surrounded with flowers from people all around the world. Michael got in and turned the car on and "Man In The Mirror" was playing. Michael knew that was the last song Ryan had been listening to. It just thrilled him to know that. It was the simple things that put a smile on his face. He later released "GONE TOO SOON" for Ryan but who would have known he would be joining Ryan and he too would be "GONE TOO SOON"
We Love You Michael
Jeanne White
Mother of Ryan White
Mother of Ryan White
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